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SSJ4 vs SSj God by Majingokuable SSJ4 vs SSj God by Majingokuable
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:iconaaronmcloud:
Aaronmcloud Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015
4 was more impressive than god.

4 required: a tail, being a super saiyan, absorbing enough blutz waves to turn into the golden ape, mental discipline to tame the best
god required: energy sharing (how original) 5-6 super saiyans (a fetus counts..wat) and its limited in time.

4 had a red kamehameha and dragon fist. what did god have?
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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2015
SSJ4
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015
Ssj4 Goku would beat that ass
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shydood3 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 8, 2015
as much as I want 4 to win god would destroy it.
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015
No you're wrong actually 
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:iconshydood3:
shydood3 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015
Actully no dude trust me I was proven wrong very hard
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NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015
Base Goku in GT was stronger than ssj3 Goku in Z 
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shydood3 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015
dude trust me this guy literally fucking attacked me violently about this.
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015
That doesn't make him right 
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:iconshydood3:
shydood3 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015
Well you should ask him
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goku866 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014
I think there tied
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:iconisaiahbelmont:
IsaiahBelmont Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I believe that since Goku went SSJ God and got stronger after the power went away, It helped him gain the ability to later become a SSJ4
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DarthGrave Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014
SSJ4 Goku vs SSJG Goku.

SSJ4 Goku- Uses his own power level.
                  Mode of attack: Insaint Tramission, 10x Kamehameha, Unisversal Spirit bomb, Dragon fist and ki blasts.
                  Power time limit: Can hold power level for a long time.

SSJG Goku- Needs to borrow power from everyone to use God power level.
                  Mode of attack: Insaint Tramission, Super Kamehameha, Spirit bomb, Dragon fist and ki blasts.
                  Power time limit: Can only hold the power level for 5 mintues.

V.S. battle result: SSJ4 Goku wins due to SSJ God Goku's time limit.
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:iconthundergoku:
ThunderGoku Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
I think that if Goku borrowed more energy from more Saiyans, SSJGod wouldn't have the time limit 
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:iconxenomaster:
Xenomaster Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2015
Outside help, something Goku hates
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:iconbluesunstudios:
BlueSunStudios Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Why does everyone keep saying Battle of Gods is canon? It makes no sense to me at all.
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:iconthundergoku:
ThunderGoku Featured By Owner May 5, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Because Akira Toriyama was actually involved during the production 
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:iconbluesunstudios:
BlueSunStudios Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yet virtually everyone who says that considers everything non manga produced to be non canon regardless of Toriyama's involvement major or minor and basically ingore everything that isn't Z (even the first series gets this treatment; I personally don't care for the term canon or debating what is and what isn't and I question its legitimacy these days, it's all pure nonsense to me). Honestly, they're all just a bunch of hypocrites who pick and choose based on quality and comparisons; if Toriyama had made the original manga extremely unpopular and GT was better produced, you can bet there will be many people dismissing the manga as "noncanon". That's one reason why I don't even bother so as much as giving that word any weight anymore; it can even eschew one's perception on what was of good quality.
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ThunderGoku Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
I'm not one of those people, I'm just saying that he was more involved with Battle of Gods. The way I see it, DBZ exists within a multiverse
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BlueSunStudios Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
At least YOU see it that way (which I am grateful for).
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:iconthundergoku:
ThunderGoku Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Haha. Well I thank you for that. The problem is while DBZ is an awesome franchise, like Naruto and Bleach, you always get the most retarded fans who either hate the original (why?), who hate Kai (why?), or either tries to put down other stories within the series. It's ridiculous 
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BlueSunStudios Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
All franchises have their fair share of nastiness, but some franchises stand out for how divided the fandoms are (Sonic the Hedgehog is an infamous example). People as a whole have different opinions, with some people being level headed, tolerant, and more down to earth while others are the complete opposite. The latter get more attention given how vocal they are, and while some fans of certain franchises state that they are but a vocal minority, as this article says about the Sonic fandom's current state, they're more numerous than some would like to believe or let on (or even be aware of):gamebabble.wordpress.com/2010/…
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ThunderGoku Featured By Owner May 9, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Damn! 
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Demon653 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Cool. I really wounded who is going to win?
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JessAnibal94 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
That Would Be a Crazy Battle jeje Good Work (Y)
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Volcanic-Harpy Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013
SSJ4 Goku STOMPS.
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KylePhantom Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I haven't even seen GT nor the movie yet, but GT not gonna watch after all the hatred i heard from it, and the new movie, can't wait to watch, i'm gonna have to say SSJ GOD. :) PLUS GT is not canon at all. so SSJ4 doesn't exist.
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nastynappa Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013
go gt goku
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:iconimthestrongest:
ImTheStrongest Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
GT Goku is pathetically weak.

So just say, "Yeah, Go SSJ-4"
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metalsystem761 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
In the movie don't forget pilaf is young and in GT pilaf is old.  In the movie before battle of gods pilaf wished for youth so it kills GT and plus Vegeta's brother is canon as well which also kills GT and in the movie Goku fought bills as a super saiyan at the end and Bills tells Goku you lost you God powers long time ago how did you do that and Goku didn't know how he did it.  Also Vegeta finally surpassed Goku in the movie as well.
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ImTheStrongest Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
Also, in GT, Bulma is young.  What's up with that.  Is it plastic surgery.
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S3rpente Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013
If we are using Goku GT SSj4 Goku would win, then SSJG is only galaxy buster, Goku GT basic form the power are equal.
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metalsystem761 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
To finally win the whose strongest ssj god or ssj4 argument.  ssj God happens years before ssj4.  so there for, now that they know about the God transformation they now have the years to train and learn more about the form itself.  Give those same years leading to ssj4, ssj god takes it by far.  ssj god vs the future ssj4 (I know it's not canon) I still think god takes it since the gods aura can not be sensed by anyone other than another god.  plus since whis is stronger than Bill's we don't know if the other 11 gods are even more powerful.
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:iconimthestrongest:
ImTheStrongest Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
GT Goku SSJ-4 is pathetically weak.  He couldn't even defeat a Great Ape Babi who needed to use two blast of the Gallic Gun to destroy Earth as to the "Z" Goku who defeated a normal Vegeta who could have done it in one shot.

Now if it's "Goku SSJ-4" and not "GT Goku SSJ-4,"  Goku SSJ-4 would win.

Oh, if you didn't know what I was talking about.  Let me put it this way.

When compering SSJ-4 to other anime characters.  Have you ever used GT's SSJ-4 or did you use "How powerful Goku should have been in SSJ-4 form (but still kept GT's SSJ-4 look)," to compere with other anime characters.
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greenmagnagurd Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013
ssj god is transformation
ssj 4 is evolution transformation
so I don't know who would win.
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:iconimthestrongest:
ImTheStrongest Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
If you don't know, look at the time line.  Who came first.  If both SSJ-God and SSJ-4 happened at the same time then it would have been a good argument about which form is stronger.

Also, Majingokuable didn't state that this SSJ-4 was from GT.  Yes, it is Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru's SSJ-4 but is it the one from GT.

Let me put it this way,

When you compere SSJ-4 with other characters like Naruto.  Do you use the data you got out of GT to compare with Naruto's data.  Or do you use the data that should have been the real data of SSJ-4 to compere with Naruto's data.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLKXNp…
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TIzontheska Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Student Artist
I think SSJ God is weaker than ssj4 
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:iconeveblaze31:
EveBlaze31 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013  Student General Artist
how ssj god increases base power state. Gt non canon so techinally. You can't lose to something not official.
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TIzontheska Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013  Student Artist
WE ALL KNO GT ISNT CANON THATS NOT THE POINT TE POINT IS WHO WOULD BE STRONGER! SSJG WOULD RUN OUT AND SSJ4 GOKU CAN TAKE OUT SOUPED-UP SSJ GOKu. IDGAF ABOUT CANON AND NON-CANON. SO DONT GIVE THAT ME SHIT I KNO ITS NOT CANON
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EveBlaze31 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Student General Artist
Dude calm down this is just my common opinion If you don't like it type in a calm orderly fashion and spell correctly unless your keyboard is broke.
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TIzontheska Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013  Student Artist
Bitch fuck you.
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EveBlaze31 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Student General Artist
Lol look at the comment from brandonking2013 Ssj4 power level is 12 billion while ssjgod is 15 billion. Ha Ssgod for the win.
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TIzontheska Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013  Student Artist
SSJ GOd doesnt last long. SSJ4 would bitchslap and I mean bitchslap Super Saiyan(post god mode) 
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EveBlaze31 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013  Student General Artist
You're a huge GT fan are
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:icontizontheska:
TIzontheska Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Student Artist
It's true it doesnt last long also theres only one ssj god at a time not enoguh saiyans for two, gogeta ssj4 with evicerate gpku.
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brandonking2013 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
nice pic but I know who wins here's the stats 100% confirmed by akira toriyame [link] and [link]
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ImTheStrongest Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
Aw man.  I thought those links were going to take me to an official site.  I can't trust stuff like that, people could just be lying and call it 100% confirm.  When people can show me prof of the data, then I'll believe it.

Also, even if the data say SSJ-God is stronger.  It's time limit is too short to beat SSJ-4.  It has an even shorter time limit then "Fusion Dance."

And another thing,

Your guy's calculations are wrong.

If you think a power of 100,000,000 is close to a power of 200,000,000 then you are dead wrong.  That's a 100,000,000 power difference.

Yeah, I've seen your guy's calculation on Dragonball Power level and there is a huge power error in calculation.

I still scratch my head now and then and ask, how can you guys not see that huge gap in your guy's calculation.  There are other people that would agree with me on this.

Like the power level of SSJ Goku VS. Frieza.

SSJ Goku is 150 million
100% Frieza is 120 million.
That's a 30 million power gap.  "30,000,000."  That's a lot.  Take those number and turn them into dollars and money and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Goku's got $30,000,000 more then Frieza.  That's a whole lot of money more.

I was reading this other guy's comment he post on a different site back in 2008.  He said Goku got beaten up and his power drop so when he became a SSJ, his power would probable be like 125 million and frieze's max power is 120 million.  That's still a hug difference of 5 million.  Goku can still beat Frieza with his breath.

I'll understand if SSJ Goku's Power level was 120,000,100.  That's why he was having a bit of trouble with Max Frieza's power level of 120,000,000.  Oh yes, that 100 makes a hug different.

If your power level is 100
and
You're friend's power level is 200
He'll have a 100 power level difference.
He'll be pushing you around like your nothing already and that's only a difference of 100.

But Dragonball be having like a million to trillion power difference and still be fighting on equal ground.

That's why I can't believe that calculation of Dragonball.  Or who ever uses the Dragonball calculation.
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brandonking2013 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I do realise what you are saying but stats doesn't make the win the heart and effort of the character those and yeah I know this info we spent long time working on these stats in the end it always ends with heart
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GohanLSSJ2 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013
12 billion and 15 billion? That's so... Underwhelming.
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brandonking2013 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
we used the official multipliers of each form and the data was confirmed by akira toriyame so yeah I was shocked too when my team and I finished the stats I thought ssg was stronger but ssg is 5000 times base and ss4 is 4000 times base.
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